Bikeboard December 2013

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First meeting of the New Year! Thursday January 2nd 2014
by Gunnar Shogren 02 Jan '14

02 Jan '14

We need agenda items! And how about last meeting's minutes and action items?! Sorry about the late notice, I've been away and didn't have much 'net connectivity... #thehorror Ready, Set, Go.

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Sheetz contact
by Frank Gmeindl 20 Dec '13

20 Dec '13

Hi Chris, Could you please send me contact info for a person in Sheetz who is empowered to discontinue the downtown project? You did a great job last night answering citizen's questions last night. Your role in creating the Comprehensive plan, your knowledge of the code and especially your professionalism under fire are extraordinary. The City if very fortunate to have you on the job. I must say however that installing bike racks is not a traffic study. I would have liked to have seen … [View More]bicycle counts around the prospective Sheetz property and analyses of the effects of the project on bicyclists as well as pedestrians. How many cyclists travel Foundry St. to use the underpass under Don Knotts Blvd. to get to and from the rail trail? How will the Sheetz project affect them? The Foundry St./underpass intersection is already dangerous because of its proximity to Don Knotts Blvd., the high traffic volume on Don Knotts Blvd. and the steepness of the slope coming up from the underpass. Because that intersection is so close to Don Knotts Blvd. cyclists merging from the underpass onto Foundry frequently conflict with motorists turning onto Foundry since by the time the cyclist can get started on the steep slope the east-bound lane of Foundry that appeared to be clear when the cyclist initiated his or her merge now has a motor vehicle in it bearing down on him or her. With motor vehicles exiting Sheetz onto Foundry, this situation will surely worsen substantially, perhaps to the extent that cyclists will quit using one of the most attractive entrances to the riverfront and trail. How many cyclists use Kirk St.? Before the Don Knotts Blvd./Pleasant St. reconfiguration, many used it to get to and from the Westover Bridge. Now, after the reconfiguration, I suspect bicycle use of Kirk has been quite reduced. Putting a Sheetz there will probably discourage any cyclists from using it. How many cyclists use Chestnut St.? Chestnut St. has always been a safe haven for cyclists particularly those coming from the rail trail through the Don Knotts underpass. The intersection of Foundry and South High has such poor sight lines, such heavier and faster traffic and a steep slope up High to Kirk that many cyclists choose to travel up Chestnut St. until they can use a less dangerous intersection such as Chestnut and Kirk (still awful sight lines at High and Kirk), Chestnut and Pleasant or more likely Chestnut and Chancery Row (illegally going against traffic but perceived as safer), Wall St. or even Fayette. Surely, motorists exiting Sheetz onto Chestnut perhaps being somewaht distracted by eating and drinking will increase the peril for bicyclists. How many vehicles will be going in and out of Sheetz at each of the proposed driveways each hour of the day? Which way will they be headed? While we are diligently striving to reduce motorized and increase non-motorized traffic downtown, the Sheetz could block one of the key gateways from downtown to the rail trail as well as safe access through town and to the Westover Bridge. Was any of this considered in the Sheetz traffic study? I understand that at the Oct. 16 meeting Sheetz' Robert Franks wasn't even aware that the underpass is there. What is Sheetz' position on the Comprehensive Plan? Who will be liable for pedestrian and bicyclist injuries and deaths that result from this unnecessary project? I feel that to some extent I am if I do not bring these concerns to your and Sheetz' attention. Frank D. Gmeindl LCI #1703 491 Wilson Avenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles [View Less]

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Fwd: Public Forum on Downtown Development set for 12/19
by Frank Gmeindl 17 Dec '13

17 Dec '13

If you care about the future of Morgantown's downtown, you might want to attend this. Frank

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Fwd: TAP Funding for Bicycle Board Projects (UPDATE)
by Derek Springston 16 Dec '13

16 Dec '13

BB Members, Looks like the City of Morgantown has successfully submitted 'Letters of Intent' for these projects: Bike Plan Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs Bike Plan Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops *If you would like to provide input or help with the grant-writing on either or both of these projects, please let me know.* I'm working on getting access to the WVDOH grants application page. The application won't be available … [View More]until sometime in January and due in March, but we may be able to do a bit of prep even before then since I've obtained a copy of last year's TE grant (which may be similar). Thanks, ~Derek ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeff Mikorski <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org> Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM Subject: Re: TAP Funding for Bicycle Board Projects (UPDATE) To: Derek Springston <dspringston(a)gmail.com> Derek, The intent to apply has been submitted. Sincerely, Jeff Mikorski ICMA-CM City Manager City of Morgantown, West Virginia 304-284-7404 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Springston" <dspringston(a)gmail.com> To: "Jeff Mikorski" <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 4:56:15 PM Subject: Re: TAP Funding for Bicycle Board Projects (UPDATE) Jeff, Let me know how things went with the Letter of Intents. Thanks Derek On Dec 13, 2013 12:41 PM, "Derek Springston" < dspringston(a)gmail.com > wrote: Jeff, As requested, please find the short narratives for the connection to surface transportation and the categories for the WVDOH Letters of Intent below. Let me know if this works for you. I'm a little limited in my understadning on the surface transportation connection below, but did my best. My day is a bit crazy, so if you need to reach me please call my cell again. I'll have a laptop with me if you need additional input! Cell 304-290-7727 Thanks for your help with this! ~Derek Bike Plan Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs Surface Transportation Connection: The Shared Lane Markings will be installed on roadways in conjunction with Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs along roadways to empower cyclists on their rights to ride on the roadways and ultimately reduce traffic congestion, improve health, boost economic growth, and improve air quaility in Morgantown, WV. The project was already approved by the City of Morgantown as part of the Morgantown Bicycle Plan drafted by the Bicycle Board, which is a subcommittee of the Traffic Commission. Locations for the new SLMs and BMUFL signs have already been research, selected, and reviewed by the Morgantown Bicycle Board. Category: Jeff, I believe this fits best : Construction, planning and design of on-road and off-road trail facilities for pedestrians, bicyclists and other nonmotorized forms of transportation including sidewalks, bicycle infrastructure, pedestrian and bicycle signals, traffic calming techniques, lighting and other safety-related infrastructure and transportation projects to achieve compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. Only other category may have been: Construction, planning and design of infrastructure-related projects and systems that will provide safe routes for non-drivers, including children, older adults and individuals with disabilities to access daily needs. Bike Plan Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops Surface Transportation Connection: The covered bike parking will likely be linked to the already existing or already funded and planned new Mountain Line Transit Authority (MLTA) bus stops. The MLTA already has bike racks located on all busses, which provide transportation to WVU students, Morgantown citizens, and city professionals. Adding the bike racks to each bus shelter will create more options for cyclists and commuters in order to reduce traffic congestion, improve health, boost economic growth, and improve air quaility. This project will also fit nicely into existing cycling infrastructure that complements WVU bike racks and downtown bike racks on High Street for a more comprehensive city-wide approach. Category: Again, best category: Construction, planning and design of on-road and off-road trail facilities for pedestrians, bicyclists and other nonmotorized forms of transportation including sidewalks, bicycle infrastructure, pedestrian and bicycle signals, traffic calming techniques, lighting and other safety-related infrastructure and transportation projects to achieve compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. Maybe: Construction, planning and design of infrastructure-related projects and systems that will provide safe routes for non-drivers, including children, older adults and individuals with disabilities to access daily needs. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Derek Springston < dspringston(a)gmail.com> wrote: Jeff , I sincerely apologize, but I must correct a few of my understandings and estimates for a more proper submittal of our Morgantown Bike Plan projects. I wasn't able to actually see the information required for the 'Letter of Intent' until I was approved on the WVDOH system yesterday by another sponsor and didn't get to sit down until this evening to view it in more detail. Also, my understand of the match was a bit off as well. Please review my updated project suggestions below. I previously stated that the TAP projects only needed a $15,000 minimum request. However, I now know that the two TAP projects below have to have a minimum $50,000 amount I removed the BOPARC project from the list below since you won't be dealing with that one. I also removed the Map printing project beause there really isn't a justifable way to spend $50,000 on maps when our higher end estimate was $15,000 previously. So, with our revisions, the two projects below are from our approved 2012 Bicycle Plan which can be viewed here: http://www.bikemorgantown.com/Plan/morgantown_bicycle_plan_v15-1.pdf Bike Plan Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $50,000 City of Morgantown match: $10,000 WVDOH application priority: #1 Background: Based on 77 Shared Lane Markings (SLMs) and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. The City Manager (Dan Borroff) BUDGETED $35K for SLM & BMUFL signs in 2008. I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and BMUFL signs and still looks like this number is within the ballpark. Based on my new understanding of the $50,000 minimum, I updated the costs and match above. We will research additional locations and add the appropriate SLM and BMUFL sign numbers to the grant application. Bike Plan Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $80,400 City of Morgantown match: $16,080 WVDOH application priority: #2 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 Also, are you able to approve me to 'edit' or even 'view' the WVDOH City of Morgantown sponsor applications? I'm guessing you probably received and email notification. Thanks for your understanding and please let us know if you need anything else. My cell phone number is 304-290-7727 . Derek Springston 1412 Buckhannon Avenue Morgantown, WV 26508 -- Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha “Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells -- Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha “Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* [View Less]

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TAP Funding for Bicycle Board Projects (UPDATE)
by Derek Springston 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

Jeff, I sincerely apologize, but I must correct a few of my understandings and estimates for a more proper submittal of our Morgantown Bike Plan projects. I wasn't able to actually see the information required for the 'Letter of Intent' until I was approved on the WVDOH system yesterday by another sponsor and didn't get to sit down until this evening to view it in more detail. Also, my understand of the match was a bit off as well. Please review my updated project suggestions below. I … [View More]previously stated that the TAP projects only needed a $15,000 minimum request. However, I now know that the two TAP projects below have to have a minimum $50,000 amount I removed the BOPARC project from the list below since you won't be dealing with that one. I also removed the Map printing project beause there really isn't a justifable way to spend $50,000 on maps when our higher end estimate was $15,000 previously. So, with our revisions, the two projects below are from our approved 2012 Bicycle Plan which can be viewed here: http://www.bikemorgantown.com/Plan/morgantown_bicycle_plan_v15-1.pdf *Bike Plan Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs* on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $50,000 City of Morgantown match: $10,000 WVDOH application priority: #1 Background: Based on 77 Shared Lane Markings (SLMs) and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. The City Manager (Dan Borroff) BUDGETED $35K for SLM & BMUFL signs in 2008. I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and BMUFL signs and still looks like this number is within the ballpark. Based on my new understanding of the $50,000 minimum, I updated the costs and match above. We will research additional locations and add the appropriate SLM and BMUFL sign numbers to the grant application. *Bike Plan Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops* Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $80,400 City of Morgantown match: $16,080 WVDOH application priority: #2 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 Also, are you able to approve me to 'edit' or even 'view' the WVDOH City of Morgantown sponsor applications? I'm guessing you probably received and email notification. Thanks for your understanding and please let us know if you need anything else. My cell phone number is 304-290-7727. Derek Springston 1412 Buckhannon Avenue Morgantown, WV 26508 -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* [View Less]

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TAP Funding for Bicycle Board Projects...
by Derek Springston 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

Jeff, As we've discussed and emailed about over the last few weeks, I have been asked by the Bicycle Board to pursue Transportation Alternatives Program funding for a select few projects within the already approved 2012 Morgantown Bicycle Plan assuming the City can be the sponsor through the WVDOH application process. Last Thursday you requested that I provide you with budget estimates on each project. According to the TAP info, projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-… [View More]21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of obtaining a grant or grants. If our estimates looks accurate, please submit the Letters of Intent. Given the timeframe I gave significant effort and vetted the values below with folks who had already completed project estimates for the same projects in the past or similar projects. We've also discussed some leveraging opportunities on some of the projects below, so that may be written into the grants as well. The first three listed projects below are directly from our approved 2012 Bicycle Plan which can be viewed here: http://www.bikemorgantown.com/Plan/morgantown_bicycle_plan_v15-1.pdf *Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs* on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $40,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $8,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,600 Background: Based on 77 Shared Lane Markings (SLMs) and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. The City Manager (Dan Borroff) BUDGETED $35K for SLM & BMUFL signs in 2008. I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and BMUFL signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. After discussing with the Bike Board, it was recommended to increase the total cost from $35,000 to $40,000 based on construction and labor costs. *Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map* and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600 Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". *Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops* Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 *New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park * Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800 Background: Plans are to build network of bicycle trails for school children. Key facilities nearby include the Rail Trail, Positive Spin, Marilla Park and pool, which will naturally attract younger audience. I understand BOPARC plans to submit this, but wanted it to be on your radar. Thanks and please let us know if you need anything else, ~Derek -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* [View Less]

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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
by Derek Springston 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

BB Members... Can you please take a look at my estimates below for our TAP funding requests and give any feedback prior to my submittal to Jeff Mikorski, City Manager, and Mark Wise, BOPARC tomorrow? I plan to submit mid-morning to noon sometime depending on feedback. Projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of getting something funded. If our estimates looks … [View More]accurate, I'll simply it for Jeff and Mark and send in so Jeff and Mark will have most of 3 business days to submit the Letters of Intent. I did my part while relying heavily on folks who had previously done their homework. Thanks for chiming in and helping Frank, Chip, David Bruffy, Ryan Stocking, Ella Belling, Mark Wise, Traci, Emily, and Damien. Great teamwork! *Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs* on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $35,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $7,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,400 Background: Based on 77 SLMs and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. This price was already estimated by the City Manager in 2005(?) I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. If anyone thinks we should estimate a little higher (say $40K) let me know. *Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map* and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600 Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". Project actually came in around $13000, but the minimum to apply for under TAP funding is $15,000. I feel like 80,000 maps is an awful lot, but may be the only way to get to the $15,000 based on the price quote I saw. We might be able to print less and make a larger map or fancier design or perhaps a rainproof paper? *Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops* Applicant: City of Morgantown (applicant recommended by David Bruffy, Mountainline Transit Authority) Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 or $6700 x 18 locations = $120600 Should we be conservative? Or shoot for the moon with 18 sites? *New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park * Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800 Background: Ella Belling states that this project may be difficult or ineligible to obtain funding for due to ADA provisions that may have to be made for the trails to facilitate those with disabilities through gentler slopes, etc. Feasibility may be difficult, but she recommended looking into the Land and Water Conservation Fund for trailbuilding. Thanks, ~Derek [View Less]

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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
by Chip Wamsley 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nDerek, I might be inclined to increase the shared lane markings to $40K. We put those other figures together in a hurried meeting and we may have come up short on some of the markings, plus you never know about labor overages, I wouldn't worry about the seemingly large number of maps, that will last for a few years and they will go more quickly than you wold think. We might even be … [View More]able to use some money for advertising the map to aid in its distribution and get people interested in commuting. Going to plastic for more durability might be good as well. If you can run the bus stops past Dave Bruffy that might be good, as he has some idea as to the number of covered stops he already has and which might be best to add bike parking to. Is Ryan going to work directly with BOPARC and have them as a sponsor? Make sure so we don't lose an opportunity. Great job, from your emails, it sounds like you have a lot of other info collected which should make doing the final grants much easier when we have to provide more detailed cost info. Thanks for the enormous effort, your boss will probably be happy to get you back full time! Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Derek Springston" dspringston(a)gmail.com Sent: 12/11/2013 1:04:30 AM To: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com, "Ryan Stocking" Ryan.Stocking(a)mail.wvu.edu, "David Bruffy" bruffy(a)busride.org, "Ella Belling" ella(a)montrails.org Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding BB Members... Can you please take a look at my estimates below for our TAP funding requests and give any feedback prior to my submittal to Jeff Mikorski, City Manager, and Mark Wise, BOPARC tomorrow? I plan to submit mid-morning to noon sometime depending on feedback. Projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of getting something funded. If our estimates looks accurate, I'll simply it for Jeff and Mark and send in so Jeff and Mark will have most of 3 business days to submit the Letters of Intent. I did my part while relying heavily on folks who had previously done their homework. Thanks for chiming in and helping Frank, Chip, David Bruffy, Ryan Stocking, Ella Belling, Mark Wise, Traci, Emily, and Damien. Great teamwork! Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $35,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $7,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,400 Background: Based on 77 SLMs and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. This price was already estimated by the City Manager in 2005(?) I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. If anyone thinks we should estimate a little higher (say $40K) let me know. Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600 Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". Project actually came in around $13000, but the minimum to apply for under TAP funding is $15,000. I feel like 80,000 maps is an awful lot, but may be the only way to get to the $15,000 based on the price quote I saw. We might be able to print less and make a larger map or fancier design or perhaps a rainproof paper? Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops Applicant: City of Morgantown (applicant recommended by David Bruffy, Mountainline Transit Authority) Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 or $6700 x 18 locations = $120600 Should we be conservative? Or shoot for the moon with 18 sites? New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800 Background: Ella Belling states that this project may be difficult or ineligible to obtain funding for due to ADA provisions that may have to be made for the trails to facilitate those with disabilities through gentler slopes, etc. Feasibility may be difficult, but she recommended looking into the Land and Water Conservation Fund for trailbuilding. Thanks, ~Derek [View Less]

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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike rack cost estimates?
by Chip Wamsley 10 Dec '13

10 Dec '13

This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\n Derek, Frank covered it pretty good, four sounds about right. Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl(a)gmail.com Sent: 12/10/2013 5:15:02 AM To: "Derek Springston" dspringston(a)gmail.com Cc: "Chip Wamsley" chip(a)wamsleycycles.com, "Chip Wamsley" chipwamsley(a)gmail.com, "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Subject: Re: [… [View More]Bikeboard] Bike rack cost estimates? Derek, The cast aluminum rings for the post-and-ring racks that are on the parking meters downtown cost $325/each. They were manufactured by Matthews International in Kingwood. Our contact on those was Terry Feathers. Perhaps you know him. I've heard he no longer works there so we'd have to establish a new contact at Matthews to get more rings. If you want to pursue Matthews, please let me know and I'll contact Terry. We had estimated $425/post-and-ring installed. That would include the ring, post, cap, mounting hardware and labor. Of course, the Morgantown Parking Authority graciously installed the rings on parking meters and did so within their normal cost of doing business so we don't have an as-installed cost. For the sheltered bicycle parking at bus stops, we might consider using the inverted-U racks that WVU is putting all over campus. Originally, they got stainless steel units locally from Wilson Equipment. When I called Wilson a couple years ago, they gave me a $425/rack price uninstalled if the City bought 20. Some of the stainless steel WVU inverted-U racks have a "Bike Arch" label on them, http://www.bikeracks.com/html/arch.html . Approximately 2 years ago, I called them and talked with the owner, Tom. The Bike Arch lists at $550/each but he said he would sell us 20 at $385/each and that included an extra long (12-inches extra) below-ground extension of the tube. He was very cooperative and I would expect that he would give a better price for higher volume, especially if we could link up with WVU. Finally, I noticed that the most recent racks that WVU installed at the Walnut St. PRT station are black and instead of stainless steel, might be powder coated steel which would be less expensive than stainless steel. If they're truly out of the weather at bus stops, these might suffice. I don't know where WVU got these, though. Perhaps also at Bike Arch. Arlie Forman at WVU Transportation and Parking might have more info on the WVU racks. The number of racks required would depend on the location but 4 at each stop seems like a good starting number. OTOH, the Walnut PRT station had 4, added 2 more (behind the building) and bikes still get locked to the fence. David Bruffy knows how many students get on the bus and where so maybe we could use that data to identify bus stops at which sheltered bike parking might get the most use. Thanks for taking on this project and following it through to completion! Frank On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Derek Springston wrote: Chip and Frank, Do either of you have the costs associated with the Bike Racks that we placed downtown on High Street? I'm trying to factor these into our estimate to provide to Jeff Mikorski on placing covered bike parking at the Mountainline bus stops as part of our Letter of Intents for the TAP funding. I was thinking that having 4 racks that hold 8 bikes at each shelter would be plenty. And I thought it would be best to match the racks at the bus stops with the previous sets that were installed downtown. Does anyone have any other thoughts? I will need the price per rack - Associated design and construction oversight costs, if you have it - If I can get the cost of those, I'll have estimated costs for all 4 projects Traci, Chip, and I discussed at the last BB meeting. Hopefully, all of these projects will have Letters of Intent submitted by the City of Morgantown and BOPARC. Thanks, ~Derek -- Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race. -H.G. Wells _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard [View Less]

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Bike rack cost estimates?
by Derek Springston 10 Dec '13

10 Dec '13

Chip and Frank, Do either of you have the costs associated with the Bike Racks that we placed downtown on High Street? I'm trying to factor these into our estimate to provide to Jeff Mikorski on placing covered bike parking at the Mountainline bus stops as part of our Letter of Intents for the TAP funding. I was thinking that having 4 racks that hold 8 bikes at each shelter would be plenty. And I thought it would be best to match the racks at the bus stops with the previous sets that were … [View More]

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