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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
by Chip Wamsley 12 Dec '13

12 Dec '13

This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nDerek, I might be inclined to increase the shared lane markings to $40K. We put those other figures together in a hurried meeting and we may have come up short on some of the markings, plus you never know about labor overages, I wouldn't worry about the seemingly large number of maps, that will last for a few years and they will go more quickly than you wold think. We might even be able to use some money for advertising the map to aid in its distribution and get people interested in commuting. Going to plastic for more durability might be good as well. If you can run the bus stops past Dave Bruffy that might be good, as he has some idea as to the number of covered stops he already has and which might be best to add bike parking to. Is Ryan going to work directly with BOPARC and have them as a sponsor? Make sure so we don't lose an opportunity. Great job, from your emails, it sounds like you have a lot of other info collected which should make doing the final grants much easier when we have to provide more detailed cost info. Thanks for the enormous effort, your boss will probably be happy to get you back full time! Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Derek Springston" dspringston(a)gmail.com Sent: 12/11/2013 1:04:30 AM To: "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com, "Ryan Stocking" Ryan.Stocking(a)mail.wvu.edu, "David Bruffy" bruffy(a)busride.org, "Ella Belling" ella(a)montrails.org Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding BB Members... Can you please take a look at my estimates below for our TAP funding requests and give any feedback prior to my submittal to Jeff Mikorski, City Manager, and Mark Wise, BOPARC tomorrow? I plan to submit mid-morning to noon sometime depending on feedback. Projects had to range from $15,000 to $150,000 for the TAP (MAP-21) funding. I feel we've chosen some small, medium, and large dollar projects to try to maximize our chances of getting something funded. If our estimates looks accurate, I'll simply it for Jeff and Mark and send in so Jeff and Mark will have most of 3 business days to submit the Letters of Intent. I did my part while relying heavily on folks who had previously done their homework. Thanks for chiming in and helping Frank, Chip, David Bruffy, Ryan Stocking, Ella Belling, Mark Wise, Traci, Emily, and Damien. Great teamwork! Priorities 7,8,11: Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $35,000 Design and Construction Oversight Estimate: $7,000 City of Morgantown match: $1,400 Background: Based on 77 SLMs and 32 Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs, which were previously planned and mapped throughout Morgantown. This price was already estimated by the City Manager in 2005(?) I looked at today's retail values on the SLMs and signs and still looks like this number is appropriate with oversight and construction taken into account. If anyone thinks we should estimate a little higher (say $40K) let me know. Priority 15: Print the established bicycle route map and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness Applicant: City of Morgantown Total Project Costs: $15,000 Design and Production Estimate: $3,000 City of Morgantown match: $600 Background: Based on approx. 80,000 maps to be printed at 17"x24". Project actually came in around $13000, but the minimum to apply for under TAP funding is $15,000. I feel like 80,000 maps is an awful lot, but may be the only way to get to the $15,000 based on the price quote I saw. We might be able to print less and make a larger map or fancier design or perhaps a rainproof paper? Priority 47: Covered bike parking at bus stops Applicant: City of Morgantown (applicant recommended by David Bruffy, Mountainline Transit Authority) Total Project Costs: $80,400 Design and Construction Oversight: $16080 City of Morgantown match: $3216 Background: Number of locations: 12 Racks per location: 4 at $550/rack (for a total of 8 bikes per location) = $2200 Bike shelter: 4'x12' w/ shelter, concrete pad, and excavation = $4500 Shelter and 4 racks per site: $4500 + $2200 = $6700 $6700 x 12 locations = $80400 or $6700 x 18 locations = $120600 Should we be conservative? Or shoot for the moon with 18 sites? New Priority not in plan: Trail project in Marilla Park Applicant: BOPARC Total Project Costs: $20,000 Design and Construction Oversight: $4,000 BOPARC match: $800 Background: Ella Belling states that this project may be difficult or ineligible to obtain funding for due to ADA provisions that may have to be made for the trails to facilitate those with disabilities through gentler slopes, etc. Feasibility may be difficult, but she recommended looking into the Land and Water Conservation Fund for trailbuilding. Thanks, ~Derek

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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike rack cost estimates?
by Chip Wamsley 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\n Derek, Frank covered it pretty good, four sounds about right. Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl(a)gmail.com Sent: 12/10/2013 5:15:02 AM To: "Derek Springston" dspringston(a)gmail.com Cc: "Chip Wamsley" chip(a)wamsleycycles.com, "Chip Wamsley" chipwamsley(a)gmail.com, "Bike Board - Morgantown" bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] Bike rack cost estimates? Derek, The cast aluminum rings for the post-and-ring racks that are on the parking meters downtown cost $325/each. They were manufactured by Matthews International in Kingwood. Our contact on those was Terry Feathers. Perhaps you know him. I've heard he no longer works there so we'd have to establish a new contact at Matthews to get more rings. If you want to pursue Matthews, please let me know and I'll contact Terry. We had estimated $425/post-and-ring installed. That would include the ring, post, cap, mounting hardware and labor. Of course, the Morgantown Parking Authority graciously installed the rings on parking meters and did so within their normal cost of doing business so we don't have an as-installed cost. For the sheltered bicycle parking at bus stops, we might consider using the inverted-U racks that WVU is putting all over campus. Originally, they got stainless steel units locally from Wilson Equipment. When I called Wilson a couple years ago, they gave me a $425/rack price uninstalled if the City bought 20. Some of the stainless steel WVU inverted-U racks have a "Bike Arch" label on them, http://www.bikeracks.com/html/arch.html . Approximately 2 years ago, I called them and talked with the owner, Tom. The Bike Arch lists at $550/each but he said he would sell us 20 at $385/each and that included an extra long (12-inches extra) below-ground extension of the tube. He was very cooperative and I would expect that he would give a better price for higher volume, especially if we could link up with WVU. Finally, I noticed that the most recent racks that WVU installed at the Walnut St. PRT station are black and instead of stainless steel, might be powder coated steel which would be less expensive than stainless steel. If they're truly out of the weather at bus stops, these might suffice. I don't know where WVU got these, though. Perhaps also at Bike Arch. Arlie Forman at WVU Transportation and Parking might have more info on the WVU racks. The number of racks required would depend on the location but 4 at each stop seems like a good starting number. OTOH, the Walnut PRT station had 4, added 2 more (behind the building) and bikes still get locked to the fence. David Bruffy knows how many students get on the bus and where so maybe we could use that data to identify bus stops at which sheltered bike parking might get the most use. Thanks for taking on this project and following it through to completion! Frank On Dec 9, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Derek Springston wrote: Chip and Frank, Do either of you have the costs associated with the Bike Racks that we placed downtown on High Street? I'm trying to factor these into our estimate to provide to Jeff Mikorski on placing covered bike parking at the Mountainline bus stops as part of our Letter of Intents for the TAP funding. I was thinking that having 4 racks that hold 8 bikes at each shelter would be plenty. And I thought it would be best to match the racks at the bus stops with the previous sets that were installed downtown. Does anyone have any other thoughts? I will need the price per rack - Associated design and construction oversight costs, if you have it - If I can get the cost of those, I'll have estimated costs for all 4 projects Traci, Chip, and I discussed at the last BB meeting. Hopefully, all of these projects will have Letters of Intent submitted by the City of Morgantown and BOPARC. Thanks, ~Derek -- Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race. -H.G. Wells _______________________________________________ Bikeboard mailing list Bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com http://wvcompletestreets.org/mailman/listinfo/bikeboard

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Bike rack cost estimates?
by Derek Springston 11 Dec '13

11 Dec '13

Chip and Frank, Do either of you have the costs associated with the Bike Racks that we placed downtown on High Street? I'm trying to factor these into our estimate to provide to Jeff Mikorski on placing covered bike parking at the Mountainline bus stops as part of our Letter of Intents for the TAP funding. I was thinking that having 4 racks that hold 8 bikes at each shelter would be plenty. And I thought it would be best to match the racks at the bus stops with the previous sets that were installed downtown. Does anyone have any other thoughts? I will need the price per rack - Associated design and construction oversight costs, if you have it - If I can get the cost of those, I'll have estimated costs for all 4 projects Traci, Chip, and I discussed at the last BB meeting. Hopefully, all of these projects will have Letters of Intent submitted by the City of Morgantown and BOPARC. Thanks, ~Derek -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells*

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Re: [Bikeboard] Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
by Derek Springston 09 Dec '13

09 Dec '13

David, As I understand it, TAP (or Transportation Alternatives Program) is a new program created from the new MAP-21 Act (signed into law in 2012) under the FHWA umbrella. TAP funding is derived from new MAP-21 programs including NHPP, STP, HSIP, CMAQ, etc which encompasses most activities that were previously funded under Transportation Enhancements, Recreational Trails, and Safe Routes to Schools programs. These funds are then disbursed to the State and 'Letters of Intent' must be submitted to the WVDOH through their online non-traditional grant application process. I am copying the Bike Board to determine if we have a plan or recommendations for the number and locations of bike shelters, or if that is something we can obtain by early next week. Do you already have data on bike shelter material costs, installation/engineering costs, and cost share (if needed) or do we need to dig that up? Is this something that we still need to apply for if the WVDOT already has a contract and you have budgeted money? Or will you just need to understand the scope of what we're asking in order to determine if you need more money? Thanks for your time, ~Derek On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM, David Bruffy <Bruffy(a)busride.org> wrote: > Derek, > > > > I had a telephone conversation with Chip about the possibility, but I > don’t have any information on the grant, the program or what might be > needed in terms of the letter. I didn’t realize the deadline was next > Friday, although I do recall Chip saying it was in December. I am out of > town until Wednesday of next week. When I return I have a Board Meeting > Wednesday evening. I will put an item on the Agenda asking for > authorization to file an application, but I will need some basic > information. Who is TAP run through? DOH or FHWA? What are the goals and > how many locations are on the BB plan? The State DOT has a State Contract > for bus shelters, so procurement wouldn’t be that difficult. The Authority > has budgeted funds for bus shelters, so I really just need more detail. It > would be best if we plan to work with the City as there will be need for > ROW or space for the shelters. Anything you can email me would be > helpful. I won’t have much time to work on this. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Bruffy, CCTM > > General Manager > > Mountain Line Transit Authority > > 420 DuPont Road > > Morgantown, WV 26501 > > Bruffy(a)busride.org > > WWW.BUSRIDE.ORG > > www.Twitter.com/MountainLine > > www.Facebook.com/MountainLine > > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dave-bruffy/10/137/488 > > (304) 296-3680 Office > > (304) 291-7433 Route Information > > (304) 291-7429 FAX > > > > > > *From:* Derek Springston [mailto:dspringston@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:49 PM > *To:* David Bruffy > *Cc:* Chip Wamsley; Chip Wamsley > *Subject:* Fwd: Bike Board Projects and TAP funding > > > > David, > > Please see the email below. I discussed some BB projects with Jeff > Mikorski tonight. Do you have or are you planning on submitting a > Transportation Alternatives Program letter of intent for the Bike Plan's > Priority #47 for covered parking at your bus stops around town? Jeff > requested that we get him the project costs and what the cities' cost share > would be. I understand you guys may be able to submit this on your own, > right without the city? If not, are you planning on providing this to > Jeff? I told him I would get him numbers by early next week since the > deadline is Dec. 13th. > > I'm fairly new at this funding and grant writing stuff, so forgive me if > I'm asking questions that may seem obvious to you! :) > > Anyway, hope things are well. > > ~Derek > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Derek Springston* <dspringston(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM > Subject: Bike Board Projects and TAP funding > To: Jeff Mikorski <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > > Jeff, > > I am a member of the Morgantown Bicycle Board, but you probably know me > recently from my work with Patrick Kirby at the Brownfields Assistance > Center > > I have been asked by the Bicycle Board to pursue Transportation > Alternatives Program funding for a select few projects within the already > approved 2012 Morgantown Bicycle Plan assuming we can get the right > sponsors and matches. Most of the projects already have been researched > and are ready for implementation, we just need the funding and support. > > Referenced from the Bike Plan, the projects include: > > > > *Priorities 7,8,11:* *Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use > Full Lane signs* on all City and State maintained arterials that meet > established criteria for installation > > *Priority 15*: *Print the established bicycle route map* and classify all > streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness > > *Priority 47:* *Covered bike parking at bus stops* - to be submitted by > Mountain Line Transit Authority > > > > *New Priority not in plan:* *Trail project in Marilla Park* to be > submitted by BOPARC > > > > I have more background on these projects and why we believe they will be > successful, but basically wanted know: > > > 1. Who should we interact with in the City and how we can make sure to get > the appropriate support and matches in order to submit Letters of Intent by > December 13th, 2013? > > > 2. Would you like to meet to discuss this and when? I believe Frank > Gmeindl and Emily Vasile are planning on meeting with you soon to discuss > other Bike Board actions. If you'd prefer I could try to piggy back on > that meeting to save you time, or we could just meet separately for > simplicity. > > Thanks for your time. > > > Sincerely, > > > Derek Springston > > Morgantown Bicycle Board > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* > > *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the > future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* > > > > > -- > > *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* > > *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the > future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* > -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells*

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Re: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Traffic Partnership
by Chip Wamsley 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\n Sounds like a good start. I think you are right Frank, that riding along would be a good way to educate the officers. Chip ---- Original Message ---- From: "Frank Gmeindl" fgmeindl(a)gmail.com Sent: 12/5/2013 12:02:45 PM To: "bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Board" bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Subject: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Traffic Partnership Bicycle Board Members, Attached is Chief Preston's memo concerning a "Traffic, Pedestrian, Bicycle safety partnership and campaign". For bicycling, he says, 0 false 18 pt 18 pt 0 0 false false false Bicycle Safety Initiative o Following the end of the educational year for Monongalia County Schools, the Bicycle Unit will be re-constituted for full shift work schedules o Morgantown Bicycle Officers will be assigned specifically to the rails to trails and downtown areas as part of their regular patrol duties and will enforce all violations as observed. o WVU UP will utilize their bike units during the summer months to increase awareness and educational opportunities. o Members of the Morgantown Traffic Commission, Bicycle Board and concerned citizens will be allowed to accompany Officers during designated times and locations and can distribute informational pamphlets Driver Safety Campaign o Traffic Checkpoints are operated in accordance with State Law and Guidelines established through the Governors Highway Safety Campaign. o Members of the Morgantown Traffic Commission along with concerned citizens may be allowed to attend scheduled checkpoints and distribute informational literature as appropriate. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I for one, would like to ride patrol on the City streets with the bicycle police to help educate. Frank Begin forwarded message: From: Damien Davis ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org Date: December 5, 2013 9:03:39 AM EST To: Robert Jones rjoneswvu(a)gmail.com, micynster(a)gmail.com, cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu, david.mckain(a)gmail.com, Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net, lisa k mardis lisa.k.mardis(a)gmail.com, normawyant(a)comcast.net, William Wyant wwyant(a)hsc.wvu.edu, christophergluck(a)gmail.com, psteel(a)access.k12.wv.us, Roy Nutter rnutter(a)wvu.edu Subject: Fwd: Traffic Partnership Reply-To: ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org All, Attached is a memo from Chief Preston for your review and comment regarding the proposed Ped/Bicycle/Motorist Safety Initiative discussed at the November TC meeting. J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM Assistant City Engineer City of Morgantown Public Works Department - Engineering Division 389 Spruce Street Morgantown, WV 26505 Office: 304.284.7398 Fax: 304.284.7409 www.MorgantownWV.gov From: "Ed Preston" epreston(a)cityofmorgantown.org To: "Jeff Mikorski" jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org, "Glen Kelly" ckelly(a)cityofmorgantown.org, "Bob Roberts" bob.roberts(a)mail.wvu.edu, "Damien Davis" ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org Cc: "Kevin Clark" kclark(a)cityofmorgantown.org, "Terry Hough" though(a)cityofmorgantown.org, "Matthew McCabe" mmccabe(a)cityofmorgantown.org Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:42:31 AM Subject: Traffic Partnership Attached is a memo regarding a Traffic, Pedestrian, Bicycle safety partnership and campaign that has been discussed and requested by the Town-Gown Board as well as the Morgantown Traffic Commission. Chief Roberts and I have both reviewed this document prior to submission and feel that this is the best and most reasonable starting point for such a collaboration and targeted campaign. Based on the results, the campaign could be extended, expanded or disbanded depending upon the availability of resources and operational necessities. We can begin operational implementation in January after the students return from winter break. Ed Preston Chief of Police Morgantown Police Department (304)284-7496 "Montani Semper Liberi"

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Fwd: Bike Board Projects and TAP funding
by Derek Springston 07 Dec '13

07 Dec '13

Bike Board Members, I need your help ASAP. Please take some initiative to provide me with my requests below. I spoke with Jeff Mikorski in person tonight. I received some relatively positive feedback on the projects below. Jeff stated that if we could get him the cost of the projects below and the cost share that the city would need to match, that he would take a look at them and would like to support this effort if they fit into the city's budget. 1. Who can supply me with the documents or at least project costs for the SLM and BMUFL signs below for *Priorities 7,8,11*? This is the same project that was slated for implementation a few years back when the funding was pulled, so I'm hoping the numbers still exist and can be easily located by those who secured the initial funding. 2. Who can take the time and figure out how much *Priority 15* will cost? Hint, hint: folks who work with the printing companies in town may be able to help with this the quickest. 3. I'll contact Dave Bruffy to see if he has any figures for *Priority 47*. 4. Chip, regarding the trail project in Marilla Park, who can I contact to find these estimates? (Ryan, Colin, and who within BOPARC?) Since the Letters of Intent for these projects is due next Friday, December 13th, I told Jeff we would do our best to get those estimates to him by tomorrow or early next week. Can we do this to potentially push Morgantown cycling ahead even further? He also said that outside of any grant funding, the city is trying really hard to make sure that the Bike Board gets some projects implemented soon. He acknowledged the great work we've done and really seemed to me that they want to put some money toward our priorities. Also, wondering if I should have been including the MPO on these emails? Anyone? Hope you find this as exciting as I did and can provide me with the details for the projects above. If not, we may miss some great opportunities. Thanks again for your time, ~Derek ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Derek Springston <dspringston(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM Subject: Bike Board Projects and TAP funding To: Jeff Mikorski <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org> Jeff, I am a member of the Morgantown Bicycle Board, but you probably know me recently from my work with Patrick Kirby at the Brownfields Assistance Center I have been asked by the Bicycle Board to pursue Transportation Alternatives Program funding for a select few projects within the already approved 2012 Morgantown Bicycle Plan assuming we can get the right sponsors and matches. Most of the projects already have been researched and are ready for implementation, we just need the funding and support. Referenced from the Bike Plan, the projects include: *Priorities 7,8,11:* *Install Shared Lane Markings and Bicycles May Use Full Lane signs* on all City and State maintained arterials that meet established criteria for installation *Priority 15*: *Print the established bicycle route map* and classify all streets in terms of their bicycle friendliness *Priority 47:* *Covered bike parking at bus stops* - to be submitted by Mountain Line Transit Authority *New Priority not in plan:* *Trail project in Marilla Park* to be submitted by BOPARC I have more background on these projects and why we believe they will be successful, but basically wanted know: 1. Who should we interact with in the City and how we can make sure to get the appropriate support and matches in order to submit Letters of Intent by December 13th, 2013? 2. Would you like to meet to discuss this and when? I believe Frank Gmeindl and Emily Vasile are planning on meeting with you soon to discuss other Bike Board actions. If you'd prefer I could try to piggy back on that meeting to save you time, or we could just meet separately for simplicity. Thanks for your time. Sincerely, Derek Springston Morgantown Bicycle Board -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells* -- *Let deeds, not words, be your adorning. -'Abdu'l-Baha* *“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the future of the human race.” -H.G. Wells*

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Fwd: Traffic Partnership
by Frank Gmeindl 06 Dec '13

06 Dec '13

Bicycle Board Members, Attached is Chief Preston's memo concerning a "Traffic, Pedestrian, Bicycle safety partnership and campaign". For bicycling, he says, · Bicycle Safety Initiative o Following the end of the educational year for Monongalia County Schools, the Bicycle Unit will be re-constituted for full shift work schedules o Morgantown Bicycle Officers will be assigned specifically to the rails to trails and downtown areas as part of their regular patrol duties and will enforce all violations as observed. o WVU UP will utilize their bike units during the summer months to increase awareness and educational opportunities. o Members of the Morgantown Traffic Commission, Bicycle Board and concerned citizens will be allowed to accompany Officers during designated times and locations and can distribute informational pamphlets · Driver Safety Campaign o Traffic Checkpoints are operated in accordance with State Law and Guidelines established through the Governor’s Highway Safety Campaign. o Members of the Morgantown Traffic Commission along with concerned citizens may be allowed to attend scheduled checkpoints and distribute informational literature as appropriate. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I for one, would like to ride patrol on the City streets with the bicycle police to help educate. Frank Begin forwarded message: > From: Damien Davis <ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > Date: December 5, 2013 9:03:39 AM EST > To: Robert Jones <rjoneswvu(a)gmail.com>, micynster(a)gmail.com, cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu, david.mckain(a)gmail.com, Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, lisa k mardis <lisa.k.mardis(a)gmail.com>, normawyant(a)comcast.net, William Wyant <wwyant(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, christophergluck(a)gmail.com, psteel(a)access.k12.wv.us, Roy Nutter <rnutter(a)wvu.edu> > Subject: Fwd: Traffic Partnership > Reply-To: ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org > > All, > > Attached is a memo from Chief Preston for your review and comment regarding the proposed Ped/Bicycle/Motorist Safety Initiative discussed at the November TC meeting. > > J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM > Assistant City Engineer > City of Morgantown > Public Works Department - Engineering Division > 389 Spruce Street > Morgantown, WV 26505 > Office: 304.284.7398 > Fax: 304.284.7409 > www.MorgantownWV.gov > > From: "Ed Preston" <epreston(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > To: "Jeff Mikorski" <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, "Glen Kelly" <ckelly(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, "Bob Roberts" <bob.roberts(a)mail.wvu.edu>, "Damien Davis" <ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > Cc: "Kevin Clark" <kclark(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, "Terry Hough" <though(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, "Matthew McCabe" <mmccabe(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:42:31 AM > Subject: Traffic Partnership > > Attached is a memo regarding a Traffic, Pedestrian, Bicycle safety partnership and campaign that has been discussed and requested by the Town-Gown Board as well as the Morgantown Traffic Commission. Chief Roberts and I have both reviewed this document prior to submission and feel that this is the best and most reasonable starting point for such a collaboration and targeted campaign. Based on the results, the campaign could be extended, expanded or disbanded depending upon the availability of resources and operational necessities. > > We can begin operational implementation in January after the students return from winter break. > > > > Ed Preston > Chief of Police > Morgantown Police Department > > (304)284-7496 > > "Montani Semper Liberi" > > > > > >

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December 5, Bike Board Meeting, Agenda Items
by Gunnar Shogren 05 Dec '13

05 Dec '13

Good morning all, Does it seem that November was a short month or what? I'm betting that December is gonna seem even shorter, bah humbug! But regardless we have a BB meeting this next Thursday, here is first call for agenda items. So stop your shopping for a moment and send me some things! Thankfully yours.

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Fwd: Dec. Traffic Commission Meeting Canceled
by Frank Gmeindl 04 Dec '13

04 Dec '13

Begin forwarded message: > From: Damien Davis <ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > Date: December 3, 2013 8:45:59 AM EST > To: Robert Jones <rjoneswvu(a)gmail.com>, micynster(a)gmail.com, cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu, david.mckain(a)gmail.com, Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, lisa k mardis <lisa.k.mardis(a)gmail.com>, normawyant(a)comcast.net, Susan Sullivan <ssullivan(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, Bethany Sypolt <bsypolt(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, Linda Little <llittle(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, William Wyant <wwyant(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, mmccabe(a)cityofmorgantown.org, Jeff Mikorski <jmikorski(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, christophergluck(a)gmail.com, psteel(a)access.k12.wv.us, Barbara Shellito <bshellito(a)cityofmorgantown.org>, Roy Nutter <rnutter(a)wvu.edu>, Terry Hough <though(a)cityofmorgantown.org> > Subject: Dec. Traffic Commission Meeting Canceled > Reply-To: ddavis(a)cityofmorgantown.org > > All, > > Due to lack of agenda December's meeting is canceled. Starting January we will begin a series of workshops to discuss the current role of the Traffic Commission as it exists today and a vision for the future. If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call. > > J. Damien Davis, PE, CFM > Assistant City Engineer > City of Morgantown > Public Works Department - Engineering Division > 389 Spruce Street > Morgantown, WV 26505 > Office: 304.284.7398 > Fax: 304.284.7409 > www.MorgantownWV.gov > >

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Fwd: WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting
by Frank Gmeindl 25 Nov '13

25 Nov '13

Looks like the WVCC legislative platform for this year will include: Try again for a 3-foot passing law; Repeal 17C-11-5 (a) that requires cyclists to ride as far to the right side of the roadway as practicable OR replace it with language that says, "...far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of overtaking vehicles"; Repeal 17C-11-5 (c) that requires, "Whenever a usable path for bicycles has been provided adjacent to a roadway, bicycle riders shall use such path and shall not use the roadway..."; Repeal 17C-11-7 (b) that requires bicycles to be equipped with a bell or other device capable of giving an signal audible for at least one hundred feet..."; Add a Vulnerable User Law (e.g. http://www.bikeleague.org/content/model-legislation ). Below is the thread of communication among the WVCC legislative committee members. Read from bottom up. The thread spans Nov. 14 - 22. On Nov. 18 at 10 am, the committee had a meeting in Charleston with several members including me dialing in. I am not happy with the outcome. As you can see from the thread below. I tried to get them to focus on repealing 17C-11-5 (a) that requires cyclists to ride far to the right. I'm afraid they'll go to the legislature inadequately prepared and come out with legislation that is more harmful to bicyclists than the laws that we have now. I'm stymied and would appreciate any ideas. Frank Begin forwarded message: > From: "Steve Fowler" <SMF(a)pffwv.com> > Date: November 22, 2013 4:11:07 PM EST > To: "Strawn, Dennis A" <dennis.strawn(a)highmark.com>, "Christiaan Abildso" <cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, "Frank Gmeindl" <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com>, "Greg Garrett" <gagarrett(a)gmail.com>, "John Francis" <johncfrancis13(a)gmail.com>, "Craig Slaughter" <Craig.Slaughter(a)wvimb.org>, "Patrick Donovan" <pdonovan(a)njrati.org>, "Rahul Gupta" <rahul.gupta(a)wv.gov>, "Don Spencer" <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, "Emmett Pepper" <epepper(a)vt.edu>, "Gary Zuckett" <garyz(a)wvcag.org> > Cc: "Kasey Russell" <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > I agree with Dennis, including the 3 foot rule. I think we can sell it as follows: > > We have looked at the statutes of all 50 states, and worked with the leading advocates for bicycle safety and increasing ridership and these changes will bring WV into a leadership position with no cost at all to the State. We can use these statutes as a jumping off point to push tourism in the State as one the best cycling destinations in the country. > > > > From: Strawn, Dennis A [mailto:dennis.strawn@highmark.com] > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:05 PM > To: Steve Fowler; Christiaan Abildso; Frank Gmeindl; Greg Garrett; John Francis; Craig Slaughter; Patrick Donovan; Rahul Gupta; Don Spencer; Emmett Pepper; Gary Zuckett > Cc: Kasey Russell > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Hi all, > I have been following the conversation and have been enjoying it. I like that we can share our thoughts openly. I perused the Rutgers 3-foot report and have seen the animation about taking the lane, which I agree would be a fabulous tool to have on continuous loop for anyone at the capitol to see. > > I think we have unanimous thoughts to repeal the 'far right', side path' and 'bike bell' laws. And I think we have a majority in favor of introducing the 3-ft rule again. > > I do not think it is at all too ambitious. It is very doable, revenue neutral and is the very reason we introduced it last year. > > I hope that we all not get to wrapped up in language, because as Gary stated, which I know is true too, what goes in and what comes out at the legislature is different. > > So let's set this agenda and work with our key representatives and their staff to get the best start we can for the upcoming session. > > I really like the vulnerable user law conversation and it looks like Lab does too. They have helped get introduced new legislation concerning this subject, click the link below. > > http://www.bikeleague.org/content/take-action-curb-bikeped-fatalities > > Right now US DOT has refused to set a safety goal for non-motorized transportation. The new law would require US DOT to present one. The law would then direct state DOTs to measure safety and reduce bike/ped incidents. I am sure WVCC will be talking to our local representatives to support this and we hope you will too. > > Thanks > Dennis Strawn > TQO Tech Team > 304-347-7703 > From: Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com> > Date: November 22, 2013 11:09:15 AM EST > To: Emmett Pepper <epepper(a)vt.edu>, Gary Zuckett <garyz(a)wvcag.org> > Cc: Steve Fowler <SMF(a)pffwv.com>, Christiaan Abildso <cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, Greg Garrett <gagarrett(a)gmail.com>, Kasey Russell <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com>, John Francis <johncfrancis13(a)gmail.com>, Dennis A Strawn <dennis.strawn(a)highmark.com>, Craig Slaughter <Craig.Slaughter(a)wvimb.org>, Patrick Donovan <pdonovan(a)njrati.org>, Rahul Gupta <rahul.gupta(a)wv.gov>, Don Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > I would limit the platform to repealing 17C-11-5(a) which requires bicyclists to ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable because it endangers bicyclists. > > I would like us to give Gary and Emmett whatever support they need to get it repealed. > > IMHO, we should start by understanding why FTR endangers bicyclists. We should test our understanding by trying to enlighten others, e.g. WVDOH. > > Then, we should prepare responses to all possible objections to repealing FTR. For example, some will object, "If bicyclists are allowed to ride in the middle of the lane, I won't be able to pass them and they'll impede traffic". To that, we could respond that besides granting bicyclists the same rights as drivers of vehicles, 17C-11-2 also subjects bicyclists to the same duties as applicable to vehicle drivers and that 17C-7-3 (a) (2) requires, "...the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle..." Of course, we must also know that 17C-7-3 (a) (1) requires, the driver of the overtaking vehicle to "...pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle." > > Maybe then, after we have a radiation-hardened case for FTR repeal, we can try making sausages. > > > Frank D. Gmeindl > LCI #1703 > 491 Wilson Avenue > Morgantown, WV 26501 > 304-376-0446 > Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles > > > > From: "Don Spencer" <dspencer36(a)comcast.net> > Date: November 20, 2013 7:55:42 PM EST > To: "'Steve Fowler'" <SMF(a)pffwv.com>, "'Emmett Pepper'" <epepper(a)vt.edu>, "'Gary Zuckett'" <garyz(a)wvcag.org> > Cc: "'Christiaan Abildso'" <cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, "'Frank Gmeindl'" <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com>, "'Greg Garrett'" <gagarrett(a)gmail.com>, "'Kasey Russell'" <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com>, "'John Francis'" <johncfrancis13(a)gmail.com>, "'Dennis A Strawn'" <dennis.strawn(a)highmark.com>, "'Craig Slaughter'" <Craig.Slaughter(a)wvimb.org>, "'Patrick Donovan'" <pdonovan(a)njrati.org>, "'Rahul Gupta'" <rahul.gupta(a)wv.gov> > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Steve – Regardless of where it came from, it still has the weaknesses that I mentioned. In my opinion “far to the right” anything does not constitute model legislation that we should support. > > The value of the video is that it shows the weakness of being at the right for other reasons than “judging movement of overtaking vehicles”. It includes relationships to oncoming vehicles; the danger of holes, grates and debris on the edge of the road; and keeping the bicycle vehicle visible to turning and entering traffic. The tape also demonstrates a positioning on the road surface which enables the cyclist to ‘move’ any overtaking traffic into a passing lane, rather providing any encouragement to the motor vehicle driver(s) to consider estimating a questionable 3 foot squeeze-by measurement while negotiating oncoming traffic at a speed over 35 miles an hour. > > In my opinion, our platform for the “far to the right issue” should be the tape and whatever wording which enables it to be the standards for WV use of road surfaces by bicycle vehicle drivers. With the exception of the “far to the right” and the 3 foot rule, I support the other points that you make in your platform. If necessary, I could support the 3 foot rule if it relates only to a traffic speed zone of 35 miles an hour or less – with the rule being 4 feet in traffic speed zones exceeding 35 miles per hour. > > Don > > From: Steve Fowler [mailto:SMF@pffwv.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:13 PM > To: Don Spencer; Emmett Pepper; Gary Zuckett > Cc: Christiaan Abildso; Frank Gmeindl; Greg Garrett; Kasey Russell; John Francis; Strawn, Dennis A; Craig Slaughter; Patrick Donovan; Rahul Gupta > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > The language is from the Colorado Statute that the League holds out as a model. > > From: Don Spencer [mailto:dspencer36@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:08 PM > To: Steve Fowler; 'Emmett Pepper'; 'Gary Zuckett' > Cc: 'Christiaan Abildso'; 'Frank Gmeindl'; 'Greg Garrett'; 'Kasey Russell'; 'John Francis'; 'Dennis A Strawn'; 'Craig Slaughter'; 'Patrick Donovan'; 'Rahul Gupta' > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Steve – My first reaction to your words, “far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate of movement of overtaking vehicles” is that it is 1) a bit cumbersome and too complex – especially for persons taking a DMV driving test, 2) too much like the current “as far to the right as possible”, and 3) unenforceable by law enforcement personnel. I think we have to let go of the dysfunctional “far to the right” mindset and have confidence in the much greater safety for cyclists which comes when cyclists act as legitimate and responsible vehicles on roadways. As the film shows there is no greater assurance of safety which accrues to a cyclist by being as “far to the right”. In fact the vulnerability is usually greater for the numerous reasons carefully presented. > > Don > > From: Steve Fowler [mailto:SMF@pffwv.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:49 AM > To: Emmett Pepper; Gary Zuckett > Cc: Christiaan Abildso; Frank Gmeindl; Greg Garrett; Kasey Russell; John Francis; Dennis A Strawn; Craig Slaughter; Patrick Donovan; Rahul Gupta; Don Spencer > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Here is my draft of the platform to pursue in this legislative session: > > Overhaul our current code to make WV a bicycle friendly state in the WV Code. Repeal the “as far right as practicable” and replace it with “far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate of movement of overtaking vehicles”. Adopt a vulnerable user statute. Repeal law that requires bike path use and prohibits use of the adjacent roadway. Repeal the mandatory bicycle bell law. Adopt a three foot passing rule. > > We can prepare packets of info with a copy of the bike video, and materials from the League of American Bicyclists to demonstrate that these are model statutes being adopted in forward thinking states. > > If this agenda is too ambitious for the legislators we meet with, then we will focus on the repeal of the “as far right as practicable” statute. > > > Kasey, the League of American Bicyclists used to be called the League of American Wheelmen. I’m not sure when they changed their name. > > From: Emmett Pepper [mailto:epepper@vt.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:50 AM > To: Gary Zuckett > Cc: Christiaan Abildso; Frank Gmeindl; Greg Garrett; Kasey Russell; John Francis; Steve Fowler; Dennis A Strawn; Craig Slaughter; Patrick Donovan; Rahul Gupta; Don Spencer > Subject: RE: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Playing that video in committee would be great. Also, maybe a table in the hallway with a computer setup for people to watch it? I'm envisioning a big banner that says something like "Forcing bicycles to the right is unsafe" to catch people's eye. You all would know better than I if that is a cost-effective use of resources, but I know I like to stop at tables during the session. > > Also, forgive my ignorance on this, but are there committee staffers who could benefit from educating ahead of the session? Having people behind the scenes who understand where we are coming from might be a good strategy since I think there generally needs to be education on our positions. Until I saw this video, I didn't fully understand why forcing people on bikes to the right was bad. This could also help with getting the video onto the committee agenda. > > -Emmett > > P.S. Is Charleston's newly revised trestle rail-trail plan a finalized document or is commenting ongoing? Put another way, is there an outlet for involvement in these issues at the local level here in Charleston? > > On Nov 19, 2013 6:14 PM, "Gary Zuckett" <garyz(a)wvcag.org> wrote: > This is an excellent educational tool for our campaign. We need to figure how to get the legislators to watch it. Maybe get permission to play it in committee when bill is discussed? > > From: Frank Gmeindl [mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:49 PM > To: Steve Fowler > Cc: Emmett Pepper; Strawn, Dennis A; John Francis; Kasey Russell; Rahul Gupta; Greg Garrett; Gary Zuckett; bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Board; Patrick Donovan; Christiaan Abildso; Craig Slaughter; Don Spencer > Subject: Re: [Bikeboard] WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > WVCC Legislative Committee Members, > > This one-minute animation: http://commuteorlando.com/ontheroad/animations/narrowlane/narrowlane.html illustrates many of the hazards of riding far right as required by 17C-11-5 (a). > > The cyclist must be allowed to choose a lane position that avoids these hazards. > > A 3-foot passing law will not mitigate: > * motorists pulling out in front of edge-riding bicyclists; > * right-turning vehicles colliding with edge-riding cyclists (right hook); > * on-coming left-turning vehicles crashing into edge-riding cyclists (left cross); > * overtaking vehicles rear-ending cyclists who make left turns from the right side of the road; > * edge-riding cyclists crashing because of debris, potholes, cracks, animals and pedestrians that are more prevalent at the right edge of the roadway. > > Repealing 17C-11-5 (a) will free cyclists to choose a lane position that minimizes these hazards as well as close passes. > > > Frank D. Gmeindl > LCI #1703 > 491 Wilson Avenue > Morgantown, WV 26501 > 304-376-0446 > Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles > > > On Nov 18, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Steve Fowler wrote: > > > I would propose the following; > > 1. Do we focus on the passage of the “three foot rule” or attempt to clean up all the problem statutes? > 2. Current law for passing a bike requires an audible signal, and then passing and returning to the lane of travel only when “safe”. Almost no one follows this law when passing a bicycle. An easy to understand “three foot rule” would be much better. > > Problem statutes/ > > a/ 17C-11-5(a) “as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable” > Fix – Colorado law “far enough to the right as judged safe by the bicyclist to facilitate the movement of overtaking vehicles” > > b/ 17C-11-5(c) Have to use a bike path > Fix – repeal > c/ 17C-11-7(b) have to use a bell > From: Kasey Russell <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com> > Fix – repeal. > Date: November 15, 2013 10:11:07 AM EST > To: Emmett Pepper <epepper(a)vt.edu>, Don Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, Frank Gmeindl <frank.gmeindl(a)comcast.net>, Gary Zuckett <garyz(a)wvcag.org> > Cc: Rahul Gupta <rahul.gupta(a)wv.gov>, "Strawn, Dennis A" <dennis.strawn(a)highmark.com>, Patrick Donovan <pdonovan(a)njrati.org> > Subject: Re: WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > All: attached is the bill from last year. It was killed on third reading on Special Calendar on the House Floor. > Obviously, whatever we decide to pursue, we will devise a different strategy :). > kasey > > From: Kasey Russell <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com> > Date: November 15, 2013 9:54:43 AM EST > To: Emmett Pepper <epepper(a)vt.edu> > Cc: Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com>, Don Spencer <dspencer36(a)comcast.net>, Gary Zuckett <garyz(a)wvcag.org>, Rahul Gupta <rahul.gupta(a)wv.gov>, "Strawn, Dennis A" <dennis.strawn(a)highmark.com>, Patrick Donovan <pdonovan(a)njrati.org>, Christiaan Abildso <cgabildso(a)hsc.wvu.edu>, "bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Board" <bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com>, Steve Fowler <smf(a)pffwv.com>, Craig Slaughter <Craig.Slaughter(a)wvimb.org>, Greg Garrett <gagarrett(a)gmail.com>, John Francis <johncfrancis13(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Re: agenda -- I was planning to discuss the "Bike Safety Bill" we introduced last year and to determine if we want to modify it in any way for the upcoming session. I think Frank's email that he just sent is a great place to start with our discussion. > We will also discuss if there are any additional pieces of legislation that we could pursue given our resources. > Things mentioned to date: uniform code on public trails regarding trespass (ATVs mostly); license plate special funding. Please let me know if I'm missing anything. > Thanks, kasey > > > From: Emmett Pepper [mailto:epepper@vt.edu] > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:42 AM > To: Frank Gmeindl > Cc: Kasey Russell; Don Spencer; Gary Zuckett; Rahul Gupta; Strawn, Dennis A; Patrick Donovan; Christiaan Abildso; bikeboard(a)bikemorgantown.com Board; Steve Fowler; Craig Slaughter; Greg Garrett; John Francis > Subject: Re: WVCC Legislative Committee Meeting > > Is there an agenda for this conference call/meeting? > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Frank Gmeindl <fgmeindl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Kasey, > > I would like to encourage WVCC to forget about a 3-foot passing rule and instead concentrate on repealing 17C-11-5 (a) which requires cyclists to ride as far to the right as practicable. > > 3-foot laws are not enforced and may not be enforceable. 3-feet is not enough when a 55 mph tractor trailer passes a 10 mph cyclist. (See attached Rutgers 3-foot final report.) > > Riding far to the right leads to > * Motorists passing bicyclists too closely; > * Motorists intruding into the adjacent lane when there is on-coming traffic; > * Right-turning vehicles crashing into cyclists at intersections and driveways; > * On-coming left-turning vehicles crashing into cyclists; > * Overtaking vehicles crashing into left-turning cyclists; > * Cyclists crashing because of objects, debris; pedestrians; animals and surface hazards that are more prevalent at the right edge of the roadway. > (See attached talking point paper.) > > Bicyclists that control the lane are almost always passed by the overtaking motorist making a full lane change, giving between 6 to 8 feet of passing clearance. If you have ridden this way, you know it is true. Why ask/plead/beg for 3 feet when predominant behavior secures more than twice that much passing margin and better passing behavior (lane changes instead of straddle and in-lane passes)? > > Three foot passing laws are a bad reaction to the consequences of riding too far right. If you want passing space, solve the problem by eliminating the FTR law instead of applying a patch or "fix" such as a three foot passing law that doesn't address or solve the root cause of close passing. > > We should also continue to pursue repeal of 17C-11-5 (c) which requires cyclists to use a side-path when available and not the roadway. > > > > > > > > Frank D. Gmeindl > LCI #1703 > 491 Wilson Avenue > Morgantown, WV 26501 > 304-376-0446 > Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles > > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Kasey Russell wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for your responses. We will meet at Steve Fowler's office at 901 Quarrier Street, Charleston on Monday, Nov. 18th at 10 am. > Steve, looks like there will only be a few in person but we will need a conference phone as a few will call in. > For those calling in please use our usual number: 641-715-3620; code is 877115#. > Kasey > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Kasey Russell <russell.kasey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello WVCC Members -- We would like to have a Legislative Committee meeting on Monday, Nov. 18th at 10:00 a.m. Would you all be able to attend either in person or via conference call? We will be meeting in Steve Fowler's office in downtown Charleston and will have access to a conference phone. > Please let me know. 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