Bicycle Board Members,
Chris Fletcher contacted me today to schedule for July 14, the workshop that the BB will conduct with the Planning Commission on bicycle parking and storage. I originally only copied the BB Parking Committee on the message at the bottom of this thread. Only Chip responded. While he provided valuable input, he did not volunteer to take the lead on this.
IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LEAD OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORKSHOP, PLEASE REPLY ASAP, If someone doesn't step up by Friday to lead this, I will tell Chris then that it ain't gonna happen. He has already discussed this with the Planning Commission and they want to do it. They are also willing to make it the second part of their July 14 meeting which begins at 6:30 pm. The workshop would tentatively begin at 7:30 pm and would best be kept short: say 30 minutes to an hour.
Frank
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From: chip wamsley chipwamsley@gmail.com Date: May 17, 2011 6:17:17 AM EDT To: Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net Cc: Don Spencer dspencer36@comcast.net, Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.edu, Gunnar Shogren gshogren@gmail.com, Jonathan Rosenbaum freesource@cheat.org, Alice Vernon vernon.mail@gmail.com, Elizabeth Shogren elizabeth.schauer@gmail.com Subject: Re: Storage
Frank,
Chris is partly right--we should educate him, but the developers will only act if there is an ordinance. There has been at least one case where the fire marshall forced an apartment complex in Star City along the trail to make provisions for bike parking because residents were locking bikes to interior railings, thereby blocking access. I can come to a meeting with Chris, let me know when. I don't think we should wait until our June meeting, the sooner we get the wheels rolling the better.
Chip
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net wrote: Parking Committee Members,
On August 6, 2007, we sent to Chris Fletcher (then City Planner) the attached recommendation for bicycle storage in multi-family dwellings. That recommendation became Morgantown ordinance 1349.08 PARKING AND LOADING STANDARDS.
Unfortunately, our recommendation was for multi-family dwellings in areas zoned B-4 and we recently learned that only downtown is zoned B-4. So, that ordinance does not apply to multi-family dwellings such as the new BeechView and any other buildings around town that aren't in areas zoned B-4.
Don Spencer has met with Chris Fletcher to try to get the areas expanded. Chris doesn't want to do it. He does not like the standards in B-4 and does not feel that he has adequate justification to address changing standards for bike “parking” in multi-family construction outside of B-4 in a facility like Beech View. Don explained to him that the issue is not just parking but also bike storage. It is not safe to leave a $500 bike in an open garage night after night, week after week. There needs to be other lock-up storage provided or else hooks in bed rooms, etc.
Chris also feels that his office is being put in the middle between the Bike Board and the developers. He says that the Bicycle Board should be doing the education of the Planning Commission members and for the developers on the matter if the Bicycle Board feels strongly about the importance of the parking.
Personally, I think that being in the middle between the BB and developers is exactly where Chris should be. The BB advises the TC and the TC advises the City Manager who is Chris' boss. I agree that we should educate Chris but not that we should get between him and the developers.
I would like to arrange for the Parking Committee to meet with Chris Fletcher. I will set up a Doodle to find a date. Maybe waiting for the June BB meeting would be a better idea. You tell me.
I will meet with Chris this week. My desired outcome for our meeting is that we have an agreement that the BB will educate him and the Planning Commission on bicycle storage by presenting a compelling case based on successes in other cities. I think this could be quite fun because Ken Martis and Jenny Selin are Planning Commission members. From working with Ken on the TC, I expect he would be very enthusiastic about our presentation and we already know that Jenny is on our side since she worked so hard with us to get the downtown parking rings done.
ASAP, I would like to get prepared for the education meeting with the Planning Commission. if you have any bicycle storage standards, best practices, examples, case studies, etc. that would substantiate our recommendation, could you please send it to me? I will upload them to the Dropbox, https://www.dropbox.com/home#/Public/BicycleStorage::: I remember that we had good stuff when we made the attached recommendation but I no longer have any of that stuff. I only remember that I found some stuff on Pgh. I will search for that again and put it in the Dropbox as well.
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
The Planning Commission supports bicycle parking and storage in Morgantown multi-family dwellings and businesses and is committed to work with real estate developers to ensure that they provide it.
Last night, 9 Planning Commission members stayed an extra hour after their regular meeting for an interactive workshop with the Bicycle Board on bicycle parking and storage.
Chip Wamsley delivered the presentation that you can see at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9979830/BicycleStorage/BICYCLE%20PARKING%20REPORT.do...
The Planning Commission agreed to work with the BB to define effective and practicable solutions including legislation but also meeting and negotiating with developers. The next step is for the BB to gather other City bicycle storage ordinances, summarize them and deliver them to the Planning Commission.
The Planning Commission members in attendance were: Jennifer Selin, City Council Rep. Chris Fletcher, Morgantown Director of Development Dr. Ken Martis, Administration Peter DeMasters, Chair, 6th Ward Sam Loretta, 1st Ward Tim Stranko, 2nd Ward William Wyant, 3rd Ward Kathryn Greever, 4th Ward Carol Pyles, 7th Ward
The Bicycle Board members in attendance were: Frank Gmeindl Chip Wamsley.
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
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From: Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net Date: June 27, 2011 2:45:49 PM EDT To: Bicycle Board bikeboard@cheat.org Subject: [Bikeboard] Fwd: Storage
Bicycle Board Members,
Chris Fletcher contacted me today to schedule for July 14, the workshop that the BB will conduct with the Planning Commission on bicycle parking and storage. I originally only copied the BB Parking Committee on the message at the bottom of this thread. Only Chip responded. While he provided valuable input, he did not volunteer to take the lead on this.
IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LEAD OR PARTICIPATE IN THIS WORKSHOP, PLEASE REPLY ASAP, If someone doesn't step up by Friday to lead this, I will tell Chris then that it ain't gonna happen. He has already discussed this with the Planning Commission and they want to do it. They are also willing to make it the second part of their July 14 meeting which begins at 6:30 pm. The workshop would tentatively begin at 7:30 pm and would best be kept short: say 30 minutes to an hour.
Frank
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From: chip wamsley chipwamsley@gmail.com Date: May 17, 2011 6:17:17 AM EDT To: Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net Cc: Don Spencer dspencer36@comcast.net, Hugh.Kierig@mail.wvu.edu, Gunnar Shogren gshogren@gmail.com, Jonathan Rosenbaum freesource@cheat.org, Alice Vernon vernon.mail@gmail.com, Elizabeth Shogren elizabeth.schauer@gmail.com Subject: Re: Storage
Frank,
Chris is partly right--we should educate him, but the developers will only act if there is an ordinance. There has been at least one case where the fire marshall forced an apartment complex in Star City along the trail to make provisions for bike parking because residents were locking bikes to interior railings, thereby blocking access. I can come to a meeting with Chris, let me know when. I don't think we should wait until our June meeting, the sooner we get the wheels rolling the better.
Chip
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Frank Gmeindl frank.gmeindl@comcast.net wrote: Parking Committee Members,
On August 6, 2007, we sent to Chris Fletcher (then City Planner) the attached recommendation for bicycle storage in multi-family dwellings. That recommendation became Morgantown ordinance 1349.08 PARKING AND LOADING STANDARDS.
Unfortunately, our recommendation was for multi-family dwellings in areas zoned B-4 and we recently learned that only downtown is zoned B-4. So, that ordinance does not apply to multi-family dwellings such as the new BeechView and any other buildings around town that aren't in areas zoned B-4.
Don Spencer has met with Chris Fletcher to try to get the areas expanded. Chris doesn't want to do it. He does not like the standards in B-4 and does not feel that he has adequate justification to address changing standards for bike “parking” in multi-family construction outside of B-4 in a facility like Beech View. Don explained to him that the issue is not just parking but also bike storage. It is not safe to leave a $500 bike in an open garage night after night, week after week. There needs to be other lock-up storage provided or else hooks in bed rooms, etc.
Chris also feels that his office is being put in the middle between the Bike Board and the developers. He says that the Bicycle Board should be doing the education of the Planning Commission members and for the developers on the matter if the Bicycle Board feels strongly about the importance of the parking.
Personally, I think that being in the middle between the BB and developers is exactly where Chris should be. The BB advises the TC and the TC advises the City Manager who is Chris' boss. I agree that we should educate Chris but not that we should get between him and the developers.
I would like to arrange for the Parking Committee to meet with Chris Fletcher. I will set up a Doodle to find a date. Maybe waiting for the June BB meeting would be a better idea. You tell me.
I will meet with Chris this week. My desired outcome for our meeting is that we have an agreement that the BB will educate him and the Planning Commission on bicycle storage by presenting a compelling case based on successes in other cities. I think this could be quite fun because Ken Martis and Jenny Selin are Planning Commission members. From working with Ken on the TC, I expect he would be very enthusiastic about our presentation and we already know that Jenny is on our side since she worked so hard with us to get the downtown parking rings done.
ASAP, I would like to get prepared for the education meeting with the Planning Commission. if you have any bicycle storage standards, best practices, examples, case studies, etc. that would substantiate our recommendation, could you please send it to me? I will upload them to the Dropbox, https://www.dropbox.com/home#/Public/BicycleStorage::: I remember that we had good stuff when we made the attached recommendation but I no longer have any of that stuff. I only remember that I found some stuff on Pgh. I will search for that again and put it in the Dropbox as well.
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
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