Please remember to attend the meeting May 15 in Council Chambers 4-7 pm. and be prepared to show WVDOT good bike routes.
I asked Perry Keller to give me a better version of the statewide bike route maps that they've already produced. In response, he sent me the attached cue sheet. Below is my response.
Frank
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com Date: April 18, 2012 9:09:35 AM EDT To: "Keller, Perry J" Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov Subject: Re: maps
Thanks, Perry! The cue sheet is much more informative.
At first glance, I see a somewhat major error in it. The cue sheet says WV Bike Route 7 connects to "the Pennsylvania Bicycle Route "A" which appears to follow the Monongalia-Fayette Expressway." The PA A-Route is far from the Mon-Fayette expressway. The PA A-Route basically follows US 19 and is considerably west of the Mon-Fayette expressway.
The WV Bike Route 7 is a good rail trail route but if is going to connect to PA, it shouldn't follow the Deckers Creek trail as described in the cue sheet. Just staying on the Monongahela River Trail takes you right into PA at Pt. Marion. From Pt. Marion, there are several alternative routes to the Great Allegheny Passage which goes to Pittsburgh or Washington, DC.
The Morgantown area routes on the map at Potential connections to other States (http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide...) seem to be different than the routes on the cue sheet. To the extent that I can resolve it, the map correctly shows the PA A-Route and connection to the PA A-Route via WV 100 but that route is not on the cue sheet. Making WV 100 part of a bike route connection to the PA A-Route would provide a tremendous benefit to Morgantown area cyclists. It's the flattest road route out of Morgantown and connects to the PA A-Route (as well as the popular Rising Creek Bakery in Mt. Morris. Let's ride there next time you're in Morgantown!)
No need to do anything about these points at this time. I'll reiterate them at the May 15 workshop in Morgantown and hopefully be able to offer some help on other parts of our great state. Correcting the error in the cue sheet might save some work though.
I'm still wondering if those map files at http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide... could be made available in some more flexible format than PDF.
Perry, thanks for everything you do to promote bicycling in WV. I recognize that it's like juggling lions and tigers and bears.
Frank
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Keller, Perry J wrote:
See if this helps.
From: Frank Gmeindl [mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: Keller, Perry J Subject: maps
Hi Perry,
I'm very excited about the workshops that WVDOT is conducting to define bike routes and connections to neighboring states. I will definitely attend at least the May 15 workshop in Morgantown. I see at http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide... that some work has already been done. Unfortunately, I can't tell from the pdf maps what roads the already recommended routes are on. Are those maps available in some other format, e.g. google maps that I could zoom in and see more detail; at least the route numbers?
Best wishes,
Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
<Previously Proposed WV Bike Routes.pdf>
Thanks for the reminder Frank. I look forward to the event. It appears there are presentations at 4:00, 5:00, & 6:00 w/comment & discussion time after each presentation. See you on the 15th. Christiaan
________________________________ From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com To: Bicycle Board bikeboard@cheat.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:58 PM Subject: [Bikeboard] Statewide Bicycle Connectivity Plan - Public Meeting Announcement
Please remember to attend the meeting May 15 in Council Chambers 4-7 pm. and be prepared to show WVDOT good bike routes.
I asked Perry Keller to give me a better version of the statewide bike route maps that they've already produced. In response, he sent me the attached cue sheet. Below is my response.
Frank
Begin forwarded message:
From: Frank Gmeindl fgmeindl@gmail.com
Date: April 18, 2012 9:09:35 AM EDT
To: "Keller, Perry J" Perry.J.Keller@wv.gov
Subject: Re: maps
Thanks, Perry! The cue sheet is much more informative.
At first glance, I see a somewhat major error in it. The cue sheet says WV Bike Route 7 connects to "the Pennsylvania Bicycle Route "A" which appears to follow the Monongalia-Fayette Expressway." The PA A-Route is far from the Mon-Fayette expressway. The PA A-Route basically follows US 19 and is considerably west of the Mon-Fayette expressway.
The WV Bike Route 7 is a good rail trail route but if is going to connect to PA, it shouldn't follow the Deckers Creek trail as described in the cue sheet. Just staying on the Monongahela River Trail takes you right into PA at Pt. Marion. From Pt. Marion, there are several alternative routes to the Great Allegheny Passage which goes to Pittsburgh or Washington, DC.
The Morgantown area routes on the map at Potential connections to other States (http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide...) seem to be different than the routes on the cue sheet. To the extent that I can resolve it, the map correctly shows the PA A-Route and connection to the PA A-Route via WV 100 but that route is not on the cue sheet. Making WV 100 part of a bike route connection to the PA A-Route would provide a tremendous benefit to Morgantown area cyclists. It's the flattest road route out of Morgantown and connects to the PA A-Route (as well as the popular Rising Creek Bakery in Mt. Morris. Let's ride there next time you're in Morgantown!)
No need to do anything about these points at this time. I'll reiterate them at the May 15 workshop in Morgantown and hopefully be able to offer some help on other parts of our great state. Correcting the error in the cue sheet might save some work though.
I'm still wondering if those map files at http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide... could be made available in some more flexible format than PDF.
Perry, thanks for everything you do to promote bicycling in WV. I recognize that it's like juggling lions and tigers and bears.
Frank
On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Keller, Perry J wrote:
See if this helps.
From: Frank Gmeindl [mailto:fgmeindl@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:23 PM To: Keller, Perry J Subject: maps Hi Perry, I'm very excited about the workshops that WVDOT is conducting to define bike routes and connections to neighboring states. I will definitely attend at least the May 15 workshop in Morgantown. I see at http://www.transportation.wv.gov/highways/programplanning/planning/statewide... some work has already been done. Unfortunately, I can't tell from the pdf maps what roads the already recommended routes are on. Are those maps available in some other format, e.g. google maps that I could zoom in and see more detail; at least the route numbers? Best wishes, Frank D. Gmeindl Chairman, Morgantown Municipal Bicycle Board LCI #1703 491 WilsonAvenue Morgantown, WV 26501 304-376-0446 Cyclists fare best when they act and are treated as drivers of vehicles
<Previously Proposed WV Bike Routes.pdf>
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